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Neal Zupancic's avatar

This was an interesting read and I hope I don't come off as disagreeable, but I have some ideas which differ quite a bit from what you've reported as Russell and Patterson's ideas.

My experience of the pandemic was apparently a bit different from theirs. I don't recall ever being restricted from debating masks, lockdowns, or school closures. In fact, I published quite a number of blog posts and social media posts about these topics and I don't recall being censored, or even really criticized.

I also recall interacting with countless individuals who were opposed to masks, to lockdowns, and to school closures. I recall reading and listening to various experts and politicians expressing a variety of views - from Andrew Cuomo's daily updates which mostly seemed to follow consensus science, to Texas Governor Dan Patrick's statement that old people should volunteer to die to save the economy; from Scott Alexander's very early review on the literature on masking to Jay Bhattacharya's Great Barrington Declaration recommending that the public should pursue herd immunity to the hundreds of critics of the GBD pointing out that it was essentially advocating eugenics. In fact my experience of the pandemic was that it brought about some of the most lively, rigorous, widespread public debate about science and how science relates to public policy that I have ever personally witnessed or participated in.

We even had the President of the United States musing about drinking bleach and irradiating people's lungs and the most popular podcaster in the world pushing horse dewormer as a miracle cure. This is, to my eye, about as diametrically opposed to the tyranny of expertise as one could conceivably get: two of the world's most powerful and influential men pushing pure bunkum and obvious snake oil on their credulous followers while the actual experts struggled to mitigate the impact of their pernicious stupidity.

So I cannot really give credit to the claim that dissent was "censored" or "silenced" as these authors claim. Instead, I see two alternate phenomena:

One, people like Patrick and Bhattacharya didn't immediately get their way: the elderly and vulnerable were not sacrificed on the altar of economics and/or cordoned off from the rest of the population - at least, not at first. Instead of doing that, most decent people recoiled in horror of the idea of abandoning the most vulnerable to death or solitude and stood in solidarity with our elders and our sick, and criticized people like Patrick and Bhattacharya as ghoulish freaks and "plague rats", and it was that criticism - perhaps overly passionate, or perhaps quite reasonable given their modest proposals - which engendered a feeling that "dissent" had been "stifled". Not the tyranny of experts, but simply the normal reaction to someone telling you that you should let your parents die for the good of society.

Two, the general population came to distrust experts not because the experts overreached during the pandemic, but because *they were specifically told to* by the most powerful and influential men in the world. Donald Trump, Joe Rogan, and the entire right-wing political and media apparatus specifically attacked the status and credibility of experts because it was politically expedient or beneficial for them to do so, and their followers bought it.

As someone who followed the science quite closely, I watched expert consensus change in real time in response to new data coming in. Far from stifling debate, experts welcomed new information and challenges to the old scientific narrative. I watched as the WHO, at a painfully glacial pace, brought its guidelines on COVID transmission into compliance with the advice laid out on a Google Doc, of all things, by scientist Jose-Luis Jimenez, which challenged the prior view that COVID was primarily spread via droplet. Jiminez - just like the Ivermectin pushers - was allowed to dissent, to publish his dissent, and to have the evidence weighed by experts. The difference is not that Jiminez was allowed to speak and the Ivermectin guys weren't. The difference is that the aerosol hypothesis was confirmed and the Ivermectin hypothesis wasn't. That's science, not censorship. There's no way to do science where you just accept *all* claims. It's not the "weaponization of expertise" when people just point out that some claims have been verified while others are still in doubt. And it's not overreach for public health officials to recommend that people pursue a course of action based on confirmed claims rather than unconfirmed claims.

I've written so much I fear this should be its own blog post. My point is, to me this looks like a lot of historical revisionism in service of a specific right-wing grievance about experts, when the much simpler explanation is that right-leaning members of the public distrust experts not due to "weaponization of expertise" but instead due to unceasing right-wing griping about experts, on topics from evolution to climate change to public health to economics to every other field where reality seems to present a stubborn liberal bias.

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Robin McKenna's avatar

Thanks! I imagine it depends on lots of things--the context, the person, an so on. I had (and they have) in mind contexts where we are looking for some facts that might settle the matter, so not necessarily certainty, but some sort of indication of what we should do. I certainly think there's a tendency to look for this when it isn't necessary, or even a good idea; witness the rise of "parenting experts", "home decoration experts", and all sorts of experts they make fun of in the book. Some of these things you are better off figuring out for yourself. But then there are times when you know you can't do that--you just don't have the knowledge or skills. There's nothing wrong with that, though you can still do that more or less well.

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